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	<description>A Working Group of the NYC General Assembly #OccupyWallStreet</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wireframe Sketches for Occupywallstreet.net by cressa</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/21/443/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>cressa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry - I don&#039;t think this is really where I&#039;m supposed to post this, but I gotta post it somewhere. I noticed that the FAQ&#039;s about OWS on the nycga.net website is not longer accurate. Perhaps whoever&#039;s in charge of that copy should rewrite it in light of the eviction? Just an FYI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this is really where I&#8217;m supposed to post this, but I gotta post it somewhere. I noticed that the FAQ&#8217;s about OWS on the nycga.net website is not longer accurate. Perhaps whoever&#8217;s in charge of that copy should rewrite it in light of the eviction? Just an FYI.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyMap &#8211; the First 48 Hours by Tom Gillis</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Patrick - thanks for the tip about Crowd Flower.  I tried out SwiftRiver last weekend and couldn&#039;t get either version .3 or .5 to really work, but the plan to have a minimum threshold for geo-located reports would be great.  Takes some work off the moderators and still keeps new reports coming in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patrick &#8211; thanks for the tip about Crowd Flower.  I tried out SwiftRiver last weekend and couldn&#8217;t get either version .3 or .5 to really work, but the plan to have a minimum threshold for geo-located reports would be great.  Takes some work off the moderators and still keeps new reports coming in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyMap &#8211; the First 48 Hours by Patrick Meier</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps. Since Swift River is not ready for prime time to automate some of the curation, I would recommend we set up a CrowdFlower platform to *crowdsource the curation* of reports being submitted to your Ushahidi map. We&#039;ve used this successfully in the past. This works because only when a report is categorized and geo-located the same way by at least 3 people (could be more), does a report get pushed to the map.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. Since Swift River is not ready for prime time to automate some of the curation, I would recommend we set up a CrowdFlower platform to *crowdsource the curation* of reports being submitted to your Ushahidi map. We&#8217;ve used this successfully in the past. This works because only when a report is categorized and geo-located the same way by at least 3 people (could be more), does a report get pushed to the map.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyMap &#8211; the First 48 Hours by Patrick Meier</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice work, Tom, many thanks for sharing. Am in touch with Chris to share lessons learned on strategy &amp; deployment, but feel free to ping me at any time if we at Ushahidi can be of any help.

Thanks again,
Patrick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice work, Tom, many thanks for sharing. Am in touch with Chris to share lessons learned on strategy &amp; deployment, but feel free to ping me at any time if we at Ushahidi can be of any help.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Patrick</p>
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		<title>Comment on OccupyWallStreet.net Rough Wireframes by Internet</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/16/occupywallstreet-net-rough-wireframes/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyMap &#8211; the First 48 Hours by Andrew Mallis</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Mallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great job on the reconstructed march path, Tom, and for all your work on this project.

I concur that the tool was exciting and remains promising. It is indeed, at this time, better suited to retrospective, or more delayed accounts than real-time or near-real-time information. That doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t adapt further it to meet our needs.

Ushahidi has great potential to be quite useful for #ows. It can help keep people safe, and provide useful reports on traffic and police action. To be clear, I&#039;m not advocating action against police, just promoting a greater level of awareness of their actions so that collective decisions are better informed, and our public servants are held accountable for their actions. Simply letting the police force compliance and push people around doesn&#039;t help anyone.

Some of our next challenges, as I see them:

1. Timestamps on reports may not indicate the actual time an event occurred. We need sufficient numbers to crowdsource more accurate results and possibly mechanisms for requesting verification on the ground of events as they unfold. Tweets are assumed to be timestamped accurately, but network or human delay can impact their accuracy.

2. Crowdsourcing is great, but Approved &amp; Verified reports that pull together information gathered from various accounts, along with media, and supporting details can provide another valuable browsing experience as well. Further, a view of only Verified reports, or more granular versions of these could provide more useful data, e.g.: all medical emergencies, or only verified reports of kettling.

2.1 Filtering reports happens via ajax. Callbacks would be useful, so we can quick link to filtered result sets, or provide more contextual views.

2.2 Moderating incoming reports can be a chore, requires a clear policy on verification, and a trained and trusted network of peers.

3. SMS integration can provide instant messages to subscribers under discrete conditions. There are costs involved with SMS, and SMS gateway integration with US providers is somewhat lacking in Ushahidi.

4. Localization of the system on the same code base doesn&#039;t seem baked in. It would be useful to be able to provide default map centering based on users&#039; geography. For example, washington.map.occupy.net would load a map centered on D.C. and reports would be filtered by default for that region.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on the reconstructed march path, Tom, and for all your work on this project.</p>
<p>I concur that the tool was exciting and remains promising. It is indeed, at this time, better suited to retrospective, or more delayed accounts than real-time or near-real-time information. That doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t adapt further it to meet our needs.</p>
<p>Ushahidi has great potential to be quite useful for #ows. It can help keep people safe, and provide useful reports on traffic and police action. To be clear, I&#8217;m not advocating action against police, just promoting a greater level of awareness of their actions so that collective decisions are better informed, and our public servants are held accountable for their actions. Simply letting the police force compliance and push people around doesn&#8217;t help anyone.</p>
<p>Some of our next challenges, as I see them:</p>
<p>1. Timestamps on reports may not indicate the actual time an event occurred. We need sufficient numbers to crowdsource more accurate results and possibly mechanisms for requesting verification on the ground of events as they unfold. Tweets are assumed to be timestamped accurately, but network or human delay can impact their accuracy.</p>
<p>2. Crowdsourcing is great, but Approved &amp; Verified reports that pull together information gathered from various accounts, along with media, and supporting details can provide another valuable browsing experience as well. Further, a view of only Verified reports, or more granular versions of these could provide more useful data, e.g.: all medical emergencies, or only verified reports of kettling.</p>
<p>2.1 Filtering reports happens via ajax. Callbacks would be useful, so we can quick link to filtered result sets, or provide more contextual views.</p>
<p>2.2 Moderating incoming reports can be a chore, requires a clear policy on verification, and a trained and trusted network of peers.</p>
<p>3. SMS integration can provide instant messages to subscribers under discrete conditions. There are costs involved with SMS, and SMS gateway integration with US providers is somewhat lacking in Ushahidi.</p>
<p>4. Localization of the system on the same code base doesn&#8217;t seem baked in. It would be useful to be able to provide default map centering based on users&#8217; geography. For example, washington.map.occupy.net would load a map centered on D.C. and reports would be filtered by default for that region.</p>
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		<title>Comment on User Experience by Jill Turner</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/teams/user-experience/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My worry with internet group is they are perhaps more concerned with seeing through their own, perhaps career,  initiatives then serving the broader OWS constituency - including not yet vetted OWS working poor people. 

I thought one way of resolving this issue would be to introduce an existing timebank which is set up to build community and bring racial equality. I understand Internet and Open Source are very excited about creating new innovative systems. But if existing drupal based timebanks are up and running and could greatly enhance working group accessibility and OWS functioning I would appreciate moving forward. We can always change things in the future when our own internet systems can serve the broader community. 

Please let me know if my worries are unwarranted and why. OK? 

Thanks, 

Jill 
413 658 8509]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My worry with internet group is they are perhaps more concerned with seeing through their own, perhaps career,  initiatives then serving the broader OWS constituency &#8211; including not yet vetted OWS working poor people. </p>
<p>I thought one way of resolving this issue would be to introduce an existing timebank which is set up to build community and bring racial equality. I understand Internet and Open Source are very excited about creating new innovative systems. But if existing drupal based timebanks are up and running and could greatly enhance working group accessibility and OWS functioning I would appreciate moving forward. We can always change things in the future when our own internet systems can serve the broader community. </p>
<p>Please let me know if my worries are unwarranted and why. OK? </p>
<p>Thanks, </p>
<p>Jill<br />
413 658 8509</p>
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		<title>Comment on HOW TO view/save/print calendar by Public Takeover</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/07/how-to-viewsaveprint-calendar/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Takeover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool.  Good instructions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  Good instructions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyMap &#8211; the First 48 Hours by Minutes &#8211; IT Conference Call 11/20 :: InterOccupation Communication</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Minutes &#8211; IT Conference Call 11/20 :: InterOccupation Communication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (4) &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; - Launch Recap: http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/ - runs on ushahidi [ http://ushahidi.com/ ] . php/mysql - Ushahidi source: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (4) &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; &#8211; Launch Recap: <a href="http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/" rel="nofollow">http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/19/occupymap-the-first-48-hours/</a> &#8211; runs on ushahidi [ <a href="http://ushahidi.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ushahidi.com/</a> ] . php/mysql &#8211; Ushahidi source: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on UX Team Proposes Work Flow to Promote Transparent Decision Making Based on Consensus by DrRon Suarez</title>
		<link>http://internet.nycga.net/2011/11/14/ux-team-proposes-work-flow-to-promote-transparent-decision-making-based-on-consensus/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>DrRon Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please note that the primary purpose of this flow chart was to provide a basis for a conversation about process. Some have offered criticism of the flow chart being too hierarchical or that the flow chart implies the existence of resources we do not have. The purpose of examining process is to improve upon what can be done with limited resources. Besides creating a basis for conversation, the flow chart is an attempt to provide guidelines (not rigid rules). Common sense should always be applied in decision making.

PRODUCT MANAGER PRIORITIZES ISSUES FOR CURRENT SPRINT
(first box at the top of the chart)

Please think of the &quot;Product Manager&quot; as attempting to organize information and make it more accessible to both developers and users of the system. In our current situation you cannot and should not be &quot;ordering&quot; unpaid volunteer developers to do certain things.

The current &quot;Sprint&quot; is a term from Agile project management. At the beginning of a Sprint, the team should reach consensus about priorities and reduce requirements churn by not letting other requests change the focus during the Sprint. The &quot;Pivotal Tracker&quot; tool being used helps to separate &quot;Current&quot; from &quot;Backlog.&quot; See: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/399421 In addition to this, a team should have a meeting to discuss what belongs inside &quot;Current&quot; otherwise anybody with access can be adding to the &quot;Current&quot; list resulting in scope creep or requirements churn. The role of the Product (or Project) manager should be to help keep the team focused on a small set of problems that are possible to address in a short period of time (Sprint). This is a philosophy of getting more done by doing less (at any one time). By producing a &quot;static&quot; document with a date for the current Sprint, a Product Manager could help to make it more obvious as to whether scope creep or requirements churn is taking place.

Finally, this is not intended as a complaint against anybody who is currently working or trying to help. Many are already doing their best to implement the processes described here. My goal is to help communicate these ideas for discussion among the people doing the work so they we can all coordinate more smoothly with each other. I sincerely apologize to anyone who has felt their work criticized by any previous posts I have made. I do believe that if we are to succeed as a movement, that we must be able to discuss process. If feelings are hurt by this, then we must make attempts to reach out on a personal level to insure solidarity. To that end, I think we should consider some regular &quot;social get together&quot; events, where we can meet as people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please note that the primary purpose of this flow chart was to provide a basis for a conversation about process. Some have offered criticism of the flow chart being too hierarchical or that the flow chart implies the existence of resources we do not have. The purpose of examining process is to improve upon what can be done with limited resources. Besides creating a basis for conversation, the flow chart is an attempt to provide guidelines (not rigid rules). Common sense should always be applied in decision making.</p>
<p>PRODUCT MANAGER PRIORITIZES ISSUES FOR CURRENT SPRINT<br />
(first box at the top of the chart)</p>
<p>Please think of the &#8220;Product Manager&#8221; as attempting to organize information and make it more accessible to both developers and users of the system. In our current situation you cannot and should not be &#8220;ordering&#8221; unpaid volunteer developers to do certain things.</p>
<p>The current &#8220;Sprint&#8221; is a term from Agile project management. At the beginning of a Sprint, the team should reach consensus about priorities and reduce requirements churn by not letting other requests change the focus during the Sprint. The &#8220;Pivotal Tracker&#8221; tool being used helps to separate &#8220;Current&#8221; from &#8220;Backlog.&#8221; See: <a href="https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/399421" rel="nofollow">https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/399421</a> In addition to this, a team should have a meeting to discuss what belongs inside &#8220;Current&#8221; otherwise anybody with access can be adding to the &#8220;Current&#8221; list resulting in scope creep or requirements churn. The role of the Product (or Project) manager should be to help keep the team focused on a small set of problems that are possible to address in a short period of time (Sprint). This is a philosophy of getting more done by doing less (at any one time). By producing a &#8220;static&#8221; document with a date for the current Sprint, a Product Manager could help to make it more obvious as to whether scope creep or requirements churn is taking place.</p>
<p>Finally, this is not intended as a complaint against anybody who is currently working or trying to help. Many are already doing their best to implement the processes described here. My goal is to help communicate these ideas for discussion among the people doing the work so they we can all coordinate more smoothly with each other. I sincerely apologize to anyone who has felt their work criticized by any previous posts I have made. I do believe that if we are to succeed as a movement, that we must be able to discuss process. If feelings are hurt by this, then we must make attempts to reach out on a personal level to insure solidarity. To that end, I think we should consider some regular &#8220;social get together&#8221; events, where we can meet as people.</p>
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